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Smallville "Quest"

First, I must apologize--I still owe comment replies from last week's review, and I've basically been absent from LJ. Work has been crazy, and will likely be so for the next couple weeks, so any comment that would require more than 30 seconds of brainpower from me is probably not going to happen.

And now, very brief comments on this week's episode:

Continuity porn FTW! I would estimate the continuity level of this episode as eleventy billion. I cannot decide if I like the comment about Lex playing with Warrior Angel figurines more than the fact that Lionel actually had a logical reason for his vanity project of the Luthor manse or not--but wow. Stone by stone, as referenced in the very first episode. Not to mention that we get Naman and Segeeth and Kryptonian symbols and Edward Teague. Heck, even all the overt religious metaphors for Clark are continuous with the fact that he was crucified in the Pilot.

Torture porn FTW! Usually we only get Lex OR Clark stripped and tortured in a single episode; this episode gave us both. Lots of barechestedness.

Badass Lex FTW! I really loved Lex and his quest for the McGuffin in this episode, though it also depressed the hell out of me. I knew MR wasn't coming back as a regular next season, but I was still until recently hoping they could get him back at least for a few guest spots. This episode reminded me how much I love Lex, and made me wonder if I'm really going to be able to keep watching next season when he's gone. :-(

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roxymissrose
May. 9th, 2008 04:47 am (UTC)
I love that when he's attacked, he doesn't do that "wtf shock" take that most characters do--he just grabs what's handy and fights back without effing around! *loves*
norwich36
May. 9th, 2008 02:11 pm (UTC)
Well, given how much he's been beaten up throughout the series, it's not surprising to me that he's trained himself to react immediately. And it's just a joy to watch him get his badass on. I especially loved when he walked in and shot that guy, after just liberating himself from the hospital bed.
bop_radar
May. 10th, 2008 04:27 am (UTC)
Hahaha, my thoughts exactly: it's not even a suprise to him now. He just goes into attack mode. And yeah, his impatience with hospital beds is adorable.
norwich36
May. 10th, 2008 07:23 pm (UTC)
Really, though, he must have mutated healing abilities, otherwise it's hard to imagine how he was even walking after that attack!
bop_radar
May. 10th, 2008 11:31 pm (UTC)
True! I love his healing abilities though so I heart the continuity.
myownghost
May. 9th, 2008 10:48 am (UTC)
oh, does that mean MR won't be back at all? i thought he would for a few eps, like KK. so sad. without the clark/lex dynamic, i dunno...

yes, that crucifixion has been waiting for further unpacking, image-wise. i haven't seen this episode yet but will definitely watch it when i get the chance.
norwich36
May. 9th, 2008 02:15 pm (UTC)
I saw a link to an interview that said he wasn't going to be back at all (the link said that, I mean. I actually didn't have time to read the interview, so I suppose I could be wrong).

The religious stuff in this episode was...kind of disturbing, but intentionally so, I think. Not only did Edward Teague have a cult-like fixation on Clark, but they even had Chloe echoing some of his language, which I found more than a little troubling. Though Teague also quoted the "rule them with strength" line of Jor-El, which I thought was fascinating: how could he know that? This ep seemed to imply that Jor-El had actually communicated with Veritas prior to sending Clark, and that in fact he was the one who sent the cryptograph just in case Clark went evil.
myownghost
May. 9th, 2008 04:57 pm (UTC)
oh! that is disturbing. i wonder if the show will ever make clear just exactly what jor-el has been up to all along. i get confused when i think about what he really wants from clark/kal-el.
norwich36
May. 9th, 2008 10:23 pm (UTC)
I am hopeful that we will get some definite answers next week during the showdown at the Fortress. The setup seems to indicate we will, though of course we all know SV is not always the best at follow-through.
suex
May. 9th, 2008 10:48 pm (UTC)
Clark told Dr. Swann about the message in the ship, so I guess if Teague was Swann's disciple then he would have passed that along.

I also found Chloe's religious rants a bit disturbing, especially when she does it with a roll of the eyes.
norwich36
May. 10th, 2008 04:58 am (UTC)
Oh, I had forgotten the Dr. Swann conversation.

I am cutting Chloe a little slack in this episode because she did save Clark's life, but yeah....that final conversation was not endearing me to her. And it's kind of annoying that they spent most of last season and the first part of this season clearly distinguishing between Chloe (who didn't believe in killing Lex) and Lana (who did) only to conflate those positions right now, just so Clark can articulate the fact that he doesn't believe in killing others to save himself.
suex
May. 10th, 2008 03:49 pm (UTC)
That conversation earlier in the season between Lana and Chloe really annoyed me, 'cause I think when it comes down to it, Chloe would kill to defend Clark. If we remember back to Nemesis last season, Chloe was willing to let Lex die in those tunnels.

I think that her now believing that to get rid of Lex is a good idea is more true in character, and I put her earlier thoughts in the season down to jealousy and that she didnt think Lana was good enough for Clark. Also very in character.
lola_thursday
May. 9th, 2008 06:37 pm (UTC)
Ditto, ditto, ditto. This is exactly how I feel about this episode. And you're so right: even the heavy handed religious allegories were so very Oldschool!Smallville (though it did used to be slightly more subtle), and so I shouldn't complain about that.

I'm so sad that there will be no more Lex. I understand why MR feels the need to leave, but SV just shouldn't go on without him. It's just *wrong*.
norwich36
May. 9th, 2008 07:27 pm (UTC)
I've seen some people saying that the heavy-handed religious allegory made them uncomfortable, and I can certainly see why--but I was just kind of amazed that they actually went there and took the religious subtext that's been there all along to the next level.

My feeling about SV next year is that, as a show it might still be enjoyable to watch (at least if it becomes the Lois & Clark show, as I like them both)--but without Lana, (possibly?) Chloe and especially Lex, it's not going to still be Smallville. It will be some other show, which I may or may not be interested in, but it's not my show anymore.
lola_thursday
May. 9th, 2008 07:32 pm (UTC)
No Chloe? I hadn't heard that! I was just thinking that it's amazing--and quite cool-- that she's stuck around so long, and has become a central part of the show.

but with no Lex, I just can't watch. It can't be some other show for me. If it were an actual spin off, maybe, but it's Smallville, and I have too much invested.

norwich36
May. 9th, 2008 08:34 pm (UTC)
Well, last I heard (and I pretty much have been offline this week, so there could easily be more recent news) AM hadn't been signed for next season and it was looking unlikely that she would.
lola_thursday
May. 9th, 2008 09:01 pm (UTC)
Oh my. Well, I don't blame her for jumping ship. But so it's going to be Jimmy, Clark, Lois, and Kara? That's just... odd.

Out of those, my favorite is honestly Kara. But the entire recipe just isn't Smallville and it would break my heart to tune in, I think.
norwich36
May. 9th, 2008 10:13 pm (UTC)
Michael Ausiello at TV guide has a story up today that says it's unlikely that AM will be back next season. :-(

I will probably give the new & improved version of Lois and Clark a chance next season, but I agree with you that with so many of the original characters gone, it really isn't Smallville anymore.
cinderella81
May. 9th, 2008 06:54 pm (UTC)
I was amazed at the continuity this ep ... It blew my mind!!! And yay for torture porn for both our boys!!!

Although ... Jimmy turned down sex with Chloe?? What kind of fool does that?
norwich36
May. 9th, 2008 07:29 pm (UTC)
It is sort of hard to imagine someone turning down sex with Chloe. Though I have to say, I was happy to see she still has a sex drive; lately it's seemed like her entire function on the show was exposition and Clark-support. (I am ignoring the spy episode because, frankly, it has been wiped from my memory due to its badness).
lola_thursday
May. 9th, 2008 09:03 pm (UTC)
Not only did he turn down sex with Chloe, but he did so because he was more interested in getting Chloe to look at pictures of cut up Lex. This moves past strange to highly disturbing, IMO.

But yay for Chloe and the sex drive, I agree. It's nice to see her as a full person--and a sexual one at that, instead of just supporting or pining or doing techno!magic.
norwich36
May. 9th, 2008 10:14 pm (UTC)
Oh, I don't know. I mean, maybe it's just a call for Jimmy/Lex slash?
lola_thursday
May. 9th, 2008 10:53 pm (UTC)
Well, yes, there is that! Disturbing Jimmy/Lex slash, but really, is that a bad thing? :)
kpjmm
May. 10th, 2008 05:08 am (UTC)
I loved Lex in this episode too! Michael makes him so real...it's going to be hard for me. I prob will check out what is happening on the show online, but not follow it like I used to.

I like Kara too, but I doubt the show will use her well next season. IDK why I feel that way.
norwich36
May. 10th, 2008 07:33 pm (UTC)
I don't know--if there are only going to be 4 main characters next season, I actually think it's likely that they will develop Kara's character a lot.

But yeah, it's just not going to be the same show without Michael.
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norwich36
May. 10th, 2008 07:44 pm (UTC)
Someone on TWoP suggested that Lex has been so great in this batch of post-strike episodes because the creative team probably thought MR was bluffing about not coming back and figured that if they just gave the character great, meaty stuff to do, the actor'd change his mind and re-up for part of S8. I can see why it wouldn't have been enough, though, and why MR might not have been willing to trust that he wouldn't go right back to making three-minute-per-ep appearances once S8 started up.

I don't blame MR for that at all--he's probably right. And honestly, I think they still could make a decent show next year--I'm definitely going to keep watching for the first few eps, anyway--it's just that I really can't see the show's conclusion without Lex, you know? I thought they'd talk him into a 4-episode arc or something to finish out the series, and now it sounds like they won't be able to get him back at all, which makes me very sad.
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